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The gag is off: Samba’s Allison talks turkey on Microsoft-Novell deal
Posted on Sunday, December 31 2006 @ 08:40:52 EST by linuxwiz |
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On December 21, word leaked out that lead Samba developer Jeremy Allison quit Novell in protest over the Microsoft-Novell alliance, unveiled in early November.
Other than sharing the fact that he had taken a new job with Google,
Allison said he couldn't provide specifics on his decision until some
time after December 29, which would be his last day at Novell.
Today is December 30, so the gag order is over. And Allison isn't holding back.
My favorite line from Allison in this latest interview: "I don't
want to give my efforts to a company that is willing to try and trick
their way out of their license obligations on my software."
Here are more details on Allison's plans and perceptions of the
patent agreement between Microsoft and Novell that has generated so
much controversy over the past couple of months. This interview was
conducted via e-mail.
Allison: First things first :-) . I want to make it
really clear I'm *NOT* speaking on behalf of Google. I don't even start
there until Jan 2nd 2007 so I'm not even an employee when answering
these questions :-) .
The answers here are my personal ones and are not in any way
representing Google positions, plans, statements or even ideas :-) .
They're all my ideas (crazy as they might be :-) .
MJF: Understood. Question No. 1: Did Google recruit
you, once it was plain you were unhappy about the MS-Novell deal? Or
did you approach Google? In other words, how did your hiring actually
come to pass? (I'm asking this because some people were speculating you
already had decided to go to Google before the Microsoft-Novell deal
was announced.)
Allison: I approached Google once I found out
enough about the deal to realize that Novell had got itself into a
position where they couldn't back out without severe penalties, and
thus they were really stuck in a trap of their own making, I realized
Microsoft held all the cards in the relationship and they had no
interest in helping Novell back out of a big mistake (especially when
its in their favor). They promptly demonstrated that at the initial
press conference, when (Microsoft CEO) Steve Ballmer publicly
humiliated Novell (IMHO) by making direct and rather ugly threats
against other Linux distributions.
It didn't take long as I'd actually interviewed at Google before
taking the job at Novell, but had decided to join Novell at that time.
So people needn't think Google dropped their high hiring standards in
order to hire me :-) , I'd already passed their rather grueling
interview process before, it was more a matter of them checking I
hadn't gotten significantly worse since then :-) .
MJF: What's going to be your new title — and responsibilities — at Google?
Allison: I have no idea of the title (and they
don't matter anyway :-) . Responsibilities will be continuing my work
on Samba and working out where it fits for Google.
MJF: Is Google interested in productizing Samba in some way? Can it? Or will Samba remain an independent technology?
Allison: I can't comment on Google's product plans, but Samba is and always will be an independent project.
MJF: What do you see at Google, in terms of its
commitment to open source, that you think differentiates it from Novell
and other players in the space?
Allison: Google actually does a lot to promote Open
Source, and I'm hoping to help them do more. Looking at Google
contributions the "Summer of Code" is an example of the sort of thing
that Google does amazingly well. The Samba project in the past has had
people approach us offering money, but other than a travel fund and
software purchase fund (we need to buy MSDN licenses) we don't have
many expenses.
What we *really* need is more and good quality code. This (IMHO) is
what Google understands (it's all about the code) - we don't have the
management infrastructure to convert donations into funded code
contributions, and Summer of Code did this for us (taking on that
management burden). As goes Samba, so do many many other Open
Source/Free Software projects. I think Novell and other players like
Red Hat, HP, IBM and Sun do a lot by hiring Open Source/Free Software
developers directly to create much of the ecosystem and I see Google as
an important and healthy part of that.
The more Open Source/Free Software gets used the better the IT
economy gets for all players within it (and people get more freedom
too). The same goes for Microsoft, who I'd love to see get genuinely
involved in this space. Unfortunately I don't see the Microsoft/Novell
patent agreement as a way to get genuinely involved - it's still about
trying to control a competitor and ultimately to try and destroy it.
I've joked with Microsoft Executives in the past that Microsoft needs
to see a couple of bad quarters revenue before they can seriously start
to do anything with Open Source/Free Software. They're leaving money on
the floor by not doing so, but unfortunately they're still printing
money fast enough via the monopoly to make the Free Software money not
worth bending over to pick up :-) .
MJF: Your opinion: Will Microsoft convince other Linux distributors to sign deals similar to the one it forged with Novell?
Allison: I don't think they have any chance with
the major ones. Niche players might be tempted, but I expect the
business fallout from this to be so negative that no one else is
tempted once people realize it's another attempt to cast legal clouds
over Linux to scare people into choosing Windows yet again :-) .
MJF: Why do you believe Novell signed the deal with
Microsoft? And do you believe Novell or other Linux distributions
infringe on Microsoft patents?
Allison: I don't know exactly why they signed it. I
don't think (Novell CEO) Ron Hovsepian is clueless or malevolent. I've
met him and think he is a really nice guy. My guess is that the
negotiations for the useful parts of the agreement (the virtualization
part and the federated directory interoperability part) had, as Ron
says, been going on for months and just before Novell wanted to seal
the deal Microsoft turned up with "there's just this one more thing we
want you to sign….." and in desperation to get the other parts of the
deal done they rushed it through.
It was carefully prepared by Microsoft legal to try and bypass the
GPLv2, and I think to their shame Novell helped them do this. I've
spoken with Novell executives since I came out internally against the
deal and their position on it has been "if it doesn't violate the GPLv2
what is your problem?" The problem is I do think it violates the intent
of the GPLv2 if not the letter, as we explained in the Samba Team statement on this.
The intent *matters*. As I tried to explain in my resignation letter,
if you're screwing over some of your major suppliers by following what
your lawyers see as the *letter* of a license, not the good faith
intent of the license, then you can't expect those suppliers to say
"well done, you really tricked us on that one…..".
The GPLv3 will fix any possible hole in the letter of the license
(and Samba will hopefully move to it once the copyright contributors
are happy with it). But in the meantime I don't want to give my efforts
to a company that is willing to try and trick their way out of their
license obligations on my software. When I talked to the Novell
Executives we just had to agree to disagree. In part, I see this deal
as a personal failure on my part.
When I first heard that Microsoft was going to take Linux seriously
by doing an agreement with Novell I was delighted. But the more I
looked at the details the more unhappy I got with the patent part. I
tried to raise the alarm internally but was too timid with my
criticisms until it was too late and the deal was signed (I heard about
it about 5 days before it was signed). A nagging doubt is that if I had
just spoken out louder against the deal I might have been able to
change something, but I was too quiet until too late. It's *hard* to be
the one saying the emperor has no clothes, especially whilst listening
to others praising the finery of the silk stitching :-) .
As for Linux distributions infringing on Microsoft patents if
Microsoft believes that there is a clear path for them to follow to
enforce their patent rights. So long as they are not doing that I think
it's fair to say "Microsoft patents, *what* Microsoft patents?
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